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 Post subject: Corrective Cosmetic Tattooing
PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:40 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Corrective Cosmetic Tattooing
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:44 am 
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I had my lips tattooed about 18 months ago by someone in NSW who just ignored what I wanted and did what they thought was best for me. I am unhappy with the colour because it looks too brown and the shape of the middle of my top lip looks too pointy and unnatural. I have looked into laser removal but apparently that can't be used on the lips.

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I honestly don't know what to do, is there some other way that it can be removed? I just don't see how this can be changed because the colour is too dark and I am not keen on the shape of my top lip.

Please help!


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 Post subject: Re: Corrective Cosmetic Tattooing
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:43 pm 
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Hi Vera and welcome to the Forum.

Firstly may I say how sorry I am that you felt your tattooist did not listen to what you wanted and consequently the outcome is not what you had hoped for.
It is crucial during an initial consultation to;

  • Listen carefully to what a client wants, and then,
  • To make recommendations to the client, and then,
  • Help the client reach a decision that is most likely to achieve both what the client would like and a positive outcome.

It is always important to remember that opinion of makeup and beauty are subjected to personal perceptions, whilst a Cosmetic Tattooist should be skilled in providing sound advice on colours, shapes and the likely outcome during the healing process ultimately it is the client who needs to make a the final decision. After all it is your face!

Looking at the photograph you provided it appears that you have had a Lip-line and blend procedure and judging by the patchiness I assume that you have only had one treatment. In fairness to the original tattooist it is important to have two procedures because during the second procedure which is called the 'Perfecting Session' adjustments to the colour and shape can be made and the tattoo gains a more uniform smoother colour due to the extra layer of pigment. If the tattooist tries to implant too much pigment during the first procedure it could ooze/bleed into unwanted areas causing a smudgy appearance this is called Pigment Migration. Although I do understand your reluctance to return to the original tattooist if you felt that they were not listing to you.

It is also important for the Cosmetic Tattooist to have a good range of pigment colours (at least 50) I carry a range of over 100 colours as this enables me to match a colour to the hair and skin colour of the client, it is also important for the tattooist to have a good understanding of how the pigment will heal within the clients skin and the likely final colour that will be achieved. A tattooist can expand their colour range by mixing pigments but I hasten to add that they must have a genuine understanding of colour theory (as it relates to Cosmetic Tattooing) and the pigments that they are mixing together, the pigments also need to be compatible. With Lip-line & Blends I usually recommend a colour that is close to the clients natural lip shade that way the final result has a more natural look.

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With regards to having tattoo removal with lip tattooing, I strongly advise against any form of tattoo removal on the lips themselves as scarring is a high risk, I also advise against the use of corrector fluids (skin/neutral coloured pigments and glycolic acid) as the result can often look far worse than prior to.

With both Corrective Cosmetic Tattooing and ParaMedical Tattooing the objective is always to improve the appearance and therefore a careful and conservative approach is best.

In your particular circumstance I think that a correction would be quite straight forward, I think that two correction procedures would be required to make slight changes to the colour, shape and symmetry. I think that part of the issue for you is probably due to the hard Lip-line, some women like that look others do not, also there is a slight lack of symmetry on the bow which draws the eye to the bow and emphasises it. It may be that once the symmetry of the bow and the hard lip line is softened you then become happy with the shape of the bow or you may like to have the bow shape altered slightly. The colour can be changed quite easily and I suspect that a slight warming (pinker/redder shade) would be closer to what you wanted. These aspects should be discussed with you during a correction consultation and if need be you should then go home take time to consider the options before proceeding.

What I would suggest is to get a few lipstick colours in some natural lip colour shades that you feel compliment your skin and hair colour and then experiment first by colouring your lips and adjusting the symmetry in the bow and then by changing the shape of the bow so that it is less pointy. See what you like the most and what it is that is bothering you, i.e. is it the hard lip line, colour, and lack of symmetry or is it also the pointy shape of the bow.

If I can help further please let me know, I assume you are in NSW so if you would like we can arrange a Video Consult (if you have web cam facilities) or you can contact me by telephone.

Vera with your consent I will add your picture to our local image cache that way the image will load quickly even if the free image host is not working.
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 Post subject: Re: Corrective Cosmetic Tattooing
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:12 pm 
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Thanks a lot Andrea you made me feel a lot better and I think you might be right it might be the hard line that is bothering me. I have no problem with you adding my image I tried to use the attachment thing but I am new to all this. I am very glad you warned me about tattoo removal because I don't want to end up with scarred lips.

I have a web cam so I like the idea of the Video Consult, I will send you an email and make a booking.

Very relieved to read that the colour can be changed and that you seem to think that it will be straightforward. :D


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